Loredana Volpi’s apology, according to Marco Tosatti, “casts a heavy shadow on the credibility of the Fronde [faction] of adversaries,” arrayed against Father Manelli and his Order. The Summit: To date, the Vatican has not given any reasons for this radical interference, let alone any charges. (You missed that important point too, which I did put in bold.) Jabba, please come clean and do not now try to distort your earlier defamatory accusations aimed at a different imaginary “tiny group” of Friars of the Immaculate that you pointed to in your initial comment. Instead, that ‘tiny’ number of eight (some sources refer to five rebels) disgruntled friars sufficed for the adversary to ensure that his bidding would be done. The meeting took place in the chapel of St. Martha Guest House and lasted about 90 minutes. In this way the TLM is protected from any major “abuses”. Anyway, it was your original accusation saying that certain Franciscans of the Immaculate were using the TLM “as a vehicle to provide some objectively heretical teachings against the doctrines of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council” that I took issue with. Hopefully I’ll get back onto the Way to Fatima, Compostela, and Lourdes in about 10 days — there’s not much like a long foot pilgrimage to get your ideas straight again. These filed a criminal complaint for defamation. what exactly are doctrines that are ‘dogmatic in purpose’? ( Log Out / The ordinary legal process would have clarified the legality and validity of the measures of the Congregation of Religious and above all revealed what it is all about. In this way the TLM is protected from any major “abuses”. In that sense, I renew to you my formal apology for the unfortunate and unjustified conduct towards you, and I inform you that the present letter will be published in the following … media organizations and also on the Internet so that it may be widely used to redress the damage caused.”. St Peter Damian - some quotes to "damnable sodomites", Our Lady of La Salette: A Fearful Warning and a Prophecy, The Saints of Wuhan: Isolation, Suffering, and the Breath of Faith, Francis Formally Strips Secretariat Of State Of Assets, Pope Francis: Let us Dream of a New World Order. Had the article that I referred to been doctrinally, or in any other way, heterodox, I would most certainly NOT have referred to that article. Of course the fact that neither side is willing to admit the existence of continuity, and that, therefore, unity is impossible, is largely due to the liturgical abuses that have run rampant for fifty years. The special charisma that has distinguished the Order from other altruistic communities was its missionary zeal. Your opinion that no heretical abuses are possible in Masses following the 1962 Missal, or earlier ones, makes no sense, given that multiple such abuses have been directly condemned as being heretical over the centuries. In May 2013, founder Manelli celebrated his 80th birthday (see Father Stefano Maria Manelli is 80 – success story of the Franciscans of the Immaculate: Old Rite and Missionary), unaware of what a storm would soon rage over his work. History of the the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate in the... Fr. The Court of Avellino ruled that there had been no misconduct of any kind by Fr. And never mind the atrociously offensive attempt to posit yourself as being in some manner of superiority, eh ? (btw kiernan etmologically means “son of a Lord”, my name is just “Lord” ; so there’s your pedantry du jour, matey), He seems to delight in speaking half truths,rendered so by his inability or reluctance to speak with clarity. This was to prove the truth, which was obviously not possible. Certainly none of the good and humble friars we have met and talked to over the years on the Chartres pilgrimage have mentioned any such thing. Holding different opinions about issues is not lying. Fr. Unfortunately, I have no idea what the details of that proposal really were. Together with Mario Castellano, she wrote the book “Truth and Justice for Father Fidenzio Volpi. EWTN Pro-Life Weekly. I did not read the rest of Fr Geiger’s article you linked to, nor do I intend to. the Congregation of the Religious did not dare to take action. A Handbook on Guadalupe [Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate] on Amazon.com. Stephano Maria Manelli and Fr. (Which it did of course, once Pope Francis arrived on the Chair of Saint Peter!) The special charisma that has distinguished the Order from other altruistic communities was its missionary zeal. In order to exorcise the Order’s charisma, monasteries were closed, its seminary closed and evictions were carried out. One could even wonder if he had it in mind all along to break up the Order one day when a suitable moment arose! Your quoting of the Council of Trent to me that took place over 550 years ago to defend the Church against the Protestants’ blatant and real abuses of the Mass, So, massive abuses of the Traditional Latin Mass are then possible, following your own words. ”Or a gross exaggeration?” There’s an account of the business that started all of this HERE (in Italian) – http://www.unavox.it/ArtDiversi/div026.htm ; BTW, you might very well be sympathetic to the views expressed therein, which are unconditionally supportive of those Italian FFI friars. “And never mind the atrociously offensive attempt to posit yourself as being in some manner of superiority…” Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. In cases of controversy or well-founded doubt about the celebration in the forma extraordinaria, the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei will adjudicate. These sorts of abuses are BTW directly and explicitly condemned by Pope Benedict XVI’s Summorum Pontificum, and its later accompanying doctrinal clarification. he is a victim of his own supposed erudition. Volpi had been condemned by the Italian court for defamation, to payment of damages, the execution of which was prevented by his death. The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate (Latin: Congregatio Fratrum Franciscanorum Immaculatae; abbreviated FFI) is a religious institute founded in 1970 by Conventual Franciscans Stefano Maria Manelli and Gabriel Maria Pellettieri and canonically erected by Pope John Paul II in 1998. Since you are clearly a modernist heretic who places no value on truth, please take your own advice and refrain from commenting. from the start that it was a traditional order of friars, faithful to the beautiful ancient Liturgy and practices of the Church. This... T he cyberspace is becoming a busy communication highway in the modern technology of the internet and wireless communications. Angelo M. Geiger Rorate Caeli recently “broke” the story of the suspensions of six clerics of our Institute who left their religious houses without permission in order to take “refuge” with “understanding bishops.” ‘…the Council did in fact define a small number of doctrines that are dogmatic in purpose.’. The rest of the article proves exactly that point when it talks of the loyal, traditional leaning of the rest of the Order of the FFI. The mafia is good for slander in Italy. Not only is the Traditional Latin Mass the perfect re-enactment of Christ’s Sacrifice on Calvary, His Death and Resurrection, but in no way can it be used as a “vehicle” for any “heretical teachings”. The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate were founded by Fr. The Scandal of the Franciscans of the Immaculate Posted on October 2, 2014 by Fr. Every year we are blessed to have at least three Franciscan friars of the Immaculate walking with us on the Chartres pilgrimage, and we get to know them well. Also, not only has Loredana Volpi “admitted to accusing the Order of unproven things” in her book in her fevered desire to vindicate her uncle, the Commissary, but she sums up saying the accusations there against the FFI were “untrue”, “baseless” and “unjustified”! The way in front of state courts is at least open to Father Manelli and representatives of the lay organizations affiliated to the Order because the Vatican has no access to it. History of the the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate in the... Our Apostolic Life that is both Marian and Franciscan, Our Marian-Franciscan Charism According to the Example of St. Maximilian Kolbe. Vocations Video for the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate. In short: it is an intrigue. I admit, this is a real problem for my argument, and I suspect will constitute the bulk of responses to this post from those who are sympathetic to traditionalism. The conciliar documents do not give the real story. At least he tries not to spend all of his life trying to second-guess what other people think, and guessing completely wrong every single time. A dark matter in the pontificate of Pope Francis” (Verità e giustizia per padre Fidenzio Volpi, Una oscura vicenda nel Pontificato di Papa Francesco). Would it have been less offensive if I had said it was an untruth? And what exactly are doctrines that are ‘dogmatic in purpose’? The persecution came quickly with the present pontificate. We are the Third Order Franciscans of Mary Immaculate (FMI) located in the Diocese of Fargo, North Dakota. Not only because not every doctrine is a dogmatic doctrine (there are disciplinary doctrines as well as pastoral doctrines) ; but also because, whatever the intent of Pope John XXIII for the work of the Council, the Council did in fact define a small number of doctrines that are dogmatic in purpose. The Franciscans of the Immaculate live a life following in the footsteps of the Seraphic father, St. Francis of Assisi, living according to the Definitive Rule of St. Francis (1223), after the example of St. Maximilian Mary Kolbe (sometimes known as the “St. It is the spirit by which it became necessary to create a compromise that shows us the true way. ( Log Out / Sacred Music Listen to sacred music in order to raise up your heart and soul in the contemplation of Almighty God and the beauty of … The Franciscans of the Immaculate were founded by the two Franciscan friars, Fr. Thank you Kathleen (and others) for your clarity in thought and expression, elements that are sadly lacking in most/all of Jabba’ comments. IOW, a few other progressives of the Fr Geiger type! All of which as far as I know are to be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. In return, those affected withdrew their ad. Diocesan Bishops, according to Canon Law, are to monitor liturgical matters in order to guarantee the common good and to ensure that everything is proceeding in peace and serenity in their Dioceses, always in agreement with the mens of the Holy Father clearly expressed by the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum. Of course, Pope Benedict completely rejects this interpretation of the Council. On the other hand, it is hardly surprising when statements by Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI are of higher general and particular qualities than those of Fr Geiger. Under Francis, it immediately received the tiny minority’s complaint as an opportunity to crack down on the unloved model – and radically. I believe that is called (by Blessed J.H. Loredana Volpi, a niece of the deceased commissar, saw the reputation of her uncle damaged. To actively deny, therefore, that it might be legitimate to provide the Mass in the vernacular, as some traditionalists go so far as to claim, is to deny a specific doctrine of Vatican II. Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate The official website of the Marian Friary of Our Lady of Guadalupe, the home of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate in Griswold, CT. There, they did not seek to subject their religious rule to an “aggiornamento” but to build on the first Franciscan rule of the order and deepen Marian spirituality. Fr Geiger quotes a 1998 lecture given by Cardinal Ratzinger : The Council did not itself reform the liturgical books but it offered their revision, and to this end, it established certain fundamental rules. Jabbapapa: It was that diabolical “spirit” of V2 (which he refrains from mentioning) that the Modernists used to destroy* so much of the Church’s traditional beauty, reverence, piety and practices. It needed a sledge hammer of Graces to convince me otherwise. There has been growing requests and demands for the friars to teach religion and catechesis in public schools. Actually, I had a number of conversations with Fr Geiger back in the day (2013-15), and they were reasonably respectful on both sides. Card. You (we) may disagree with Jabba. This is according to reports by Vatican expert Andrea Tornielli on the online edition of Vatican insider. Another interesting irony is that certain people having spent months demanding that he leave because of his “treason”, are now blaming him with just as much energy for having done so. But if, as Cardinal Ratzinger has said, this dichotomization and loss of unity has been occasioned by “two spiritual attitudes” rooted in externals, then we are dealing with a rather materialistic kind of spirituality. (Yes, Protestants could indeed “abuse” what they think is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, but it would not be a valid Mass!) Thank you for your lovely attack, which doubtless constitutes Catholic perfection. Dr. Scott Hahn. Besides, the Second Vatican Council itself, purely pastoral, proclaimed that no new “doctrines” would be made… although a few of its documents are indeed troublesome in places. Lies are necessarily deliberate ; those not necessarily so, and especially they leave open the possibility of ordinary errors from various ordinary causes of such things (lack of or even bad information, misunderstandings or misapprehensions, mistaking ideology for truth, and etc etc) that can involve all of those that are party to some disagreement, rather than trying to single out one particular person to blame for all of it. The left-liberal Repubblica was not the only newspaper to participate in the campaign against the Franciscans of the Immaculate. Mt. You can see that this all started as some acts of disobedience to the local Episcopal Authority (Cardinal Martini) from 2005 onwards, but as is evident from this web article of late 2005, there is a clear desire to set up some sort of “traditional doctrine” and “traditional pastoral” in a manner opposed to the Universal Church, calumnied as being “postmodernist” and seeking to actively attack the Catholic Church as being some sort of “NuChurch” (or rather the Italian equivalent of that extraordinarily abusive expression) and so on and &c. The desire in these particular FFI and their supporters to abuse the practice of the traditional Liturgy as a means of attacking the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council is blatant. So far there was no possibility for the Franciscans of Immaculate to defend themselves against the oppressive measures of the papacy or at least to defend themselves. Together they outlined a form of life for the friars, sisters and the laity after the example of St. Maximilian Mary Kolbe, giving the fullest expression to the Marian dimension of St. Francis’ ideal and Rule. The ruling may have fallen on it because it is the only newspaper that Pope Francis reads daily, according to his own statement. ... Franciscan Friars of the Renewal. Thus, he decided by virtue of his powers as an absolute monarch. Manelli is 85 years old and has been under house arrest for nearly five years, as ordered by the Vatican. Today, the second Commissar, who is a bit more reserved than his predecessor, is in office today. and NOT the supposedly: (and BTW, before you start jumping to conclusions again, I am aware of not a single FFI priest guilty of such horrendous apostasies, and please do try and NOT read into anything that I might write any “suggestions” not contained therein). This is a lie. He could not have accomplished that without, one complicit Pontiff, And the irony is, having gotten his way with the order, he then chose to leave it anyway. Was it really necessary to read the whole article of this former FFI traitor that succeeded in practically destroying the whole of this beautiful, expanding, traditional Catholic Order? If you want to slander someone, it is sufficient to incorporate these keywords and to drop some allusions in the subjunctive. Yes, very slightly. You claim that the FFI have requested their Catholic supporters not comment, and then proceed to bash them shamelessly. But it is nevertheless a doctrinal teaching of the Pontificate of Pope John Paul II. The greatest dilemma for all true Catholics nowadays is how to confront the Modernists and Freemasons who have infiltrated into “the uppermost echelons of the Church”* who are attempting to literally change doctrinal teachings by subtle evil means! But the truth is the Church claims to have done no more than to bring Her ancient teachings into a clearer perspective for the 20th Century. The two Minorites, Fr. Friar Henri Marie François says, “Our work in Africa is simple: save lives and save souls.” The Franciscan Friars do that by relying on the mediation of the Blessed Virgin Mary.